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why java and c++ used not lisp? lisp seems way beter
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Azathoth Hastur
2019-11-16 09:18:09 UTC
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whats up?
Melzzzzz
2019-11-16 09:44:41 UTC
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Post by Azathoth Hastur
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Probably quality of implementations. Language with most usable
frameworks/libraries wins...
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Bigos
2019-11-16 13:24:18 UTC
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Dijkstras'w Law of Inferior Simplicity plays a role here

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Edsger_W._Dijkstra#1980s
Bigos
2019-11-16 13:27:52 UTC
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Post by Azathoth Hastur
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Dijkstras'w Law of Inferior Simplicity plays a role here
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Edsger_W._Dijkstra#1980s
Simplicity is a great virtue but it requires hard work to achieve it and
education to appreciate it. And to make matters worse: complexity sells
better.
Robert L.
2019-11-18 16:12:37 UTC
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Post by Azathoth Hastur
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At the universities, students are taught C-like languages
(C++, Java, C#, etc.). Those who do the hiring at corporations
have also been taught that C-like languages are the only
legitimate ones. Their minds are closed.

It's a matter of brainwashing and ignorance. These people
have never learned a Lispy language or a functional one
(OCaml, Haskell, ML). And those languages look so "weird".
So they believe that those languages
aren't worth using. And they dismiss high-level interpreted
languages such as Ruby and Python as "scripting" languages,
ignoring the fact that those languages often make it much
easier to process the data correctly.

I recently examined a large book that was written to help
those applying for a programming job pass the coding test.
It devoted about 3 lines to regular expressions; it seems
that programmers aren't expected to understand them.
In other words, programmers at corporations don't even know
how to use a good text editor; they don't know how to search
for a line that contains "foo", any number of intervening
characters, and "bar" (foo.*bar). Abysmal ignorance.

The "True Believers" don't want to know the truth.
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Stefan Monnier
2019-11-18 20:27:56 UTC
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Post by Azathoth Hastur
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Common Lisp (and more generally Lisp) is doomed to failure because as is
well known by now, language needs to end in `t` in order to be
successful, as seen with Rust, Swift, Javascript, Javat, Pythont, etc...


Stefan

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